2012年3月11日星期日
Any tools to compare DB structure, update the field length ?
I am willing to pay but can't afford too much .
Thanks in advanceTry QALite, thats a free one.
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
--
"Agnes" <agnes@.dynamictech.com.hk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Any good suggestion '
> I am willing to pay but can't afford too much .
> Thanks in advance
>|||Thanks.. Jens.
Where I can find it ? Could you be kind post the web site for me ?
Thanks a lot.
"Jens Smeyer" <Jens@.Remove_this_For_Contacting.sqlserver2005.de> glsD:%23Fd1jz6
TFHA.3308@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Try QALite, thats a free one.
>
> HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
> --
> http://www.sqlserver2005.de
> --
> "Agnes" <agnes@.dynamictech.com.hk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:%23Dy6UT6TFHA.2124@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>|||Assuming I understand what you would like to do, try SQL Compare from Red Ga
te
(www.red-gate.com). Extremely fast and reasonably priced.
Thomas
"Agnes" <agnes@.dynamictech.com.hk> wrote in message
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> Any good suggestion '
> I am willing to pay but can't afford too much .
> Thanks in advance
>
2012年3月8日星期四
Any solid good backup tools for SQL Server 2000
Anyone have use any good solid backup tools for SQL Server 2000 that
01) support SQL server 2005
02) able to encypt the backup file
03) verify that the backup file is okay as native sql backup cannot verify
the backup file that I encountered.
04) able to backup database that is online without offline the db.
05) fast in backup and restore
06) reliable
07) user friend and ease of use
Please advise and comments, thank
You may want to look at LiteSpeed:
http://www.imceda.com/LiteSpeed_Description.htm
-Sue
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:09:27 +0800, "Vladimir Sim"
<fengchun@.newsgroup.nospam> wrote:
>Hi,
>Anyone have use any good solid backup tools for SQL Server 2000 that
>01) support SQL server 2005
>02) able to encypt the backup file
>03) verify that the backup file is okay as native sql backup cannot verify
>the backup file that I encountered.
>04) able to backup database that is online without offline the db.
>05) fast in backup and restore
>06) reliable
>07) user friend and ease of use
>
>Please advise and comments, thank
>
|||The native SQL Server backup command does most of that already with the
exception of 2 and to some extent 3. Number 3 will be solved in 2005 with
the use of Checksums but there are no plans to do native encryption on the
backups that I know of. There are several 3rd party tools that can do what
you want.
www.imceda.com
www.red-gate.com
www.idera.com
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"Vladimir Sim" <fengchun@.newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> Anyone have use any good solid backup tools for SQL Server 2000 that
> 01) support SQL server 2005
> 02) able to encypt the backup file
> 03) verify that the backup file is okay as native sql backup cannot verify
> the backup file that I encountered.
> 04) able to backup database that is online without offline the db.
> 05) fast in backup and restore
> 06) reliable
> 07) user friend and ease of use
>
> Please advise and comments, thank
>
|||Hi
You left out one question:
In 7 years time when you have a query from the auditors or industry
regulators, can you restore the database?
Microsoft should be able to help you, but can the 3rd party vendor promise
the same?
Regards
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"Vladimir Sim" <fengchun@.newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> Anyone have use any good solid backup tools for SQL Server 2000 that
> 01) support SQL server 2005
> 02) able to encypt the backup file
> 03) verify that the backup file is okay as native sql backup cannot verify
> the backup file that I encountered.
> 04) able to backup database that is online without offline the db.
> 05) fast in backup and restore
> 06) reliable
> 07) user friend and ease of use
>
> Please advise and comments, thank
>
|||I support a tool from http://www.databk.com
the download link:
http://www.databk.com/download/ssbk.zip
|||Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP) wrote:
> Hi
> You left out one question:
> In 7 years time when you have a query from the auditors or industry
> regulators, can you restore the database?
> Microsoft should be able to help you, but can the 3rd party vendor
> promise the same?
> Regards
> --
> Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> Zurich, Switzerland
>
I can vouch for Quest. LiteSpeed includes a free conversion utility to
change a LiteSpeed backup to a native backup, if necessary. Not that we
don't plan on being here in 7 years...
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com
|||What are the advantages over the built-in capabilities? We have a database
program that uses SQL2000. *That* database is what is, to me, a critical
backup. Can your program backup such a db? Can it be run remotely (from a
client workstation)?
If you want to continue a discussion off line, e-mail me and I'll give you
my work e-mail address...
Regards,
Hank Arnold
<info@.shareseek.com> wrote in message
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>I support a tool from http://www.databk.com
> the download link:
> http://www.databk.com/download/ssbk.zip
>
|||> LiteSpeed includes a free conversion utility to change a LiteSpeed backup to a native backup,
That is a smart move, David. This is one of the things I always bring up in classes when talking
about 3:rd party backup programs.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"David Gugick" <david.gugick-nospam@.quest.com> wrote in message
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> Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP) wrote:
>
> I can vouch for Quest. LiteSpeed includes a free conversion utility to change a LiteSpeed backup
> to a native backup, if necessary. Not that we don't plan on being here in 7 years...
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com
|||Hank,
This is not intended to diss the product but from what I can see it doesn't
do anything that you can't do with the native backup command or using
Enterprise Manager. The interface may or may not be a little easier than EM
but that is usually a personal preference.
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"Hank Arnold" <rasilon@.aol.com> wrote in message
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> What are the advantages over the built-in capabilities? We have a database
> program that uses SQL2000. *That* database is what is, to me, a critical
> backup. Can your program backup such a db? Can it be run remotely (from a
> client workstation)?
> If you want to continue a discussion off line, e-mail me and I'll give you
> my work e-mail address...
> --
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> <info@.shareseek.com> wrote in message
> news:1121241508.928497.235640@.g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
|||Me neither. I was just looking at it and couldn't see what "special"
features it brought to the table. For a lot of people, making an interface
easier to use and understand can be a critical "must have" feature.
I can vouch that it took me a while (with considerable angst, I can assure
you) to get the hang of the simple task of backing up (and restoring) the
database using Enterprise Manager..... Thank God for development
servers.... ;-)
Regards,
Hank Arnold
"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
news:ehPqR6GiFHA.2412@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hank,
> This is not intended to diss the product but from what I can see it
> doesn't do anything that you can't do with the native backup command or
> using Enterprise Manager. The interface may or may not be a little easier
> than EM but that is usually a personal preference.
>
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>
> "Hank Arnold" <rasilon@.aol.com> wrote in message
> news:ehjxreEiFHA.2484@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
2012年3月6日星期二
Any other patch need to installed besides SP3a?
I installed SP3a for MS SQL 2000. Do I need to install any other tools to prevent from hacking?
e.g. IIS Lockdown Tool for windows 2000 server IIS 5
Thanks for advice
You should check all your servers with these security tools.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Aaron Bertrand
SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/
"Tom" <kerocow@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:EEC32889-130C-4327-8AA2-A1F41BFD1430@.microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> I installed SP3a for MS SQL 2000. Do I need to install any other tools to
prevent from hacking?
> e.g. IIS Lockdown Tool for windows 2000 server IIS 5
> Thanks for advice
|||Tom,
You might want to install the MS03-031 security update.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS03-031.mspx
Mark Allison, SQL Server MVP
http://www.markallison.co.uk
Tom wrote:
> Hi,
> I installed SP3a for MS SQL 2000. Do I need to install any other tools to prevent from hacking?
> e.g. IIS Lockdown Tool for windows 2000 server IIS 5
> Thanks for advice
|||Thanks for help
Any other patch need to installed besides SP3a?
I installed SP3a for MS SQL 2000. Do I need to install any other tools to pr
event from hacking?
e.g. IIS Lockdown Tool for Windows 2000 server IIS 5
Thanks for adviceYou should check all your servers with these security tools.
CDE4D933600&displaylang=en" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en
Aaron Bertrand
SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/
"Tom" <kerocow@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:EEC32889-130C-4327-8AA2-A1F41BFD1430@.microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> I installed SP3a for MS SQL 2000. Do I need to install any other tools to
prevent from hacking?
> e.g. IIS Lockdown Tool for Windows 2000 server IIS 5
> Thanks for advice|||Tom,
You might want to install the MS03-031 security update.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/se...n/MS03-031.mspx
Mark Allison, SQL Server MVP
http://www.markallison.co.uk
Tom wrote:
> Hi,
> I installed SP3a for MS SQL 2000. Do I need to install any other tools to
prevent from hacking?
> e.g. IIS Lockdown Tool for Windows 2000 server IIS 5
> Thanks for advice|||Thanks for help
2012年2月18日星期六
any HTML DB like tool on SQL Server/.NET?
configuring quick apps for MS SQL Server/.NET platform.
I have not use Oracle's tool (and I don't know what it does) but perhaps you
could look into SQL Server Web Data Administrator
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
Perhaps this will have the functionality that you desire.
Keith
"Peter Yao" <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Just wondering if there are any tools out like Oracle's HTML DB for
> configuring quick apps for MS SQL Server/.NET platform.
>
Any good link on tracking memory issues
tools like perfmon,etc..
Its easy for CPU and IO i.e. high CPU or disk queue, but could never figure
out how to go about memory.
Yes some may say look at DBCC memorystatus,etc.. but that things greek ;)
Can someone help or maybe theres some documentation that talks about
tracking memory usage,etc. for SQL Server..Hi Hassan,
Two excellent sources I know are:
Paper "Troubleshooting Performance Problems in SQL Server 2005"
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/tsprfprb.mspx
Chapter 1, book "Inside SQL Server 2005: Query Tuning and Optimization"
by Kalen Delaney, et al.
Hope this helps,
Ben Nevarez
Senior Database Administrator
AIG SunAmerica
"Hassan" wrote:
> I have always found it hard to figure out if SQL has memory issues using
> tools like perfmon,etc..
> Its easy for CPU and IO i.e. high CPU or disk queue, but could never figure
> out how to go about memory.
> Yes some may say look at DBCC memorystatus,etc.. but that things greek ;)
> Can someone help or maybe theres some documentation that talks about
> tracking memory usage,etc. for SQL Server..
>
>
2012年2月16日星期四
any free tools for query analyzer for Sql Server 2000?
is there any free tools for query analyzer for SQL Server 2000?
Thank you.
Regards,
Angus
Hi Angus,
I understand that you want to know, if you can have any free tools for
Query Analyzer for SQL Server 2000.
You can try the Web Data Administrator available at
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...798-C57A-419E-
ACBC-2A332CB7F959&displaylang=en
HTH
Ashish
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Any free tools for accessing and managing ISP SQL account?
Very new to MS SQL, but our ISP provides us with a SQL account which we want
to use.
But the question is we don't know if there is any free tools (e.g. DbaMgr
2K) that we can use to access and/or administrate to our SQL account as
DbaMgr 2K, which we can see the DB information and/or to change the design
and data.
Thanks in advance.
xfile wrote:
> Hi:
> Very new to MS SQL, but our ISP provides us with a SQL account which
> we want to use.
> But the question is we don't know if there is any free tools (e.g.
> DbaMgr 2K) that we can use to access and/or administrate to our SQL
> account as DbaMgr 2K, which we can see the DB information and/or to
> change the design and data.
> Thanks in advance.
Web Data Administrator from Microsoft. It's free and designed for what
you need it for.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
David Gugick
Imceda Software
www.imceda.com
|||Hi:
Thanks so much, and I am currently studying the page and will test the tool.
I have posted many places, but you are the first and only one replies.
Thanks so much.
We were thinking to change ISP and maybe move to mySQL platform if we cannot
find such a tool.
Many thanks again.
"David Gugick" <davidg-nospam@.imceda.com>
??:%23xr4mDe$EHA.3700@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> xfile wrote:
> Web Data Administrator from Microsoft. It's free and designed for what you
> need it for.
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> --
> David Gugick
> Imceda Software
> www.imceda.com
|||xfile wrote:
> Hi:
> Thanks so much, and I am currently studying the page and will test
> the tool.
> I have posted many places, but you are the first and only one replies.
> Thanks so much.
> We were thinking to change ISP and maybe move to mySQL platform if we
> cannot find such a tool.
>
There are a number of tools, both free and retail. We offer Speed IDE
Pro, Microsoft has the free Web Data Administrator, but there are
others. You may get a lot of responses with options.
David Gugick
Imceda Software
www.imceda.com
|||The Web Data Administrator is good. You can also get the
free version of Toad for SQL Server from:
http://www.toadsoft.com/toadsqlserve..._sqlserver.htm
You can also find a list of third party products at:
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2442
-Sue
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:09:37 +0800, "xfile"
<cou-cou@.remove.nospam.com> wrote:
>Hi:
>Thanks so much, and I am currently studying the page and will test the tool.
>I have posted many places, but you are the first and only one replies.
>Thanks so much.
>We were thinking to change ISP and maybe move to mySQL platform if we cannot
>find such a tool.
>Many thanks again.
>
>"David Gugick" <davidg-nospam@.imceda.com>
>??:%23xr4mDe$EHA.3700@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl.. .
>
|||Hi:
Thanks for all the information.
Maybe I am too new to this thing, but where exactly shall I install Web Data
Administrator to?
I assume it will be under Program Files, but maybe not.
According to this article,
http://www.databasejournal.com/featu...e.php/3330301, the
installation will take care of itself and all I have to do is to type:
http://<webserver>/webadmin/default.aspx and it will show up the page.
Well, I typed localhost or the default server name of my local machine, and
it gives me an error message for files cannot be found.
On previous tries, I put the Web folders under the IIS www and give it a
name called sqlwebAdmin and made it a FP 2002 web, but then I got another
error message for the incorrect security using Windows as authentication and
needed to modify configuration file which I don't know how to.
I could not find many articles on the web talking about how to install and
configure it. Seems no one but me have the problem.
Thanks again for your information, and I will look into those
"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please>
??:3n0tu01pit72b5j3fa27g39jng7s6792lk@.4ax.com ...
> The Web Data Administrator is good. You can also get the
> free version of Toad for SQL Server from:
> http://www.toadsoft.com/toadsqlserve..._sqlserver.htm
> You can also find a list of third party products at:
> http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2442
> -Sue
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:09:37 +0800, "xfile"
> <cou-cou@.remove.nospam.com> wrote:
>
2012年2月13日星期一
Any debugger in MSSQL 2005?
Any 3rd party tools for integrating VSS w/ query analyzer or similar?
Query Analyzer? Or are there replacements for Query Analyzer that have VSS
built in?
We found http://www.mssqlXpress.com , but it likely has more bells and
whistles than we need and/or want to pay for. We just need/want QA with VSS
built in ...
Thanks in advance!
MarkOne thing you can do is add VSS to the external tools in Query analyzer
passing command line parameters...
SS.exe I think is VSS executable...For instance to check out the current
file..
Command: ss.exe
Arguments; checkout $(Filename)$(FileExt) -C-
Initial Directory: $(FileDir)
Ken Henderson covers some of this in his new book 'The Guru's Guide to SQL
Server Architecture and Internals'...
It's a good book , I recommend it.!
--
Wayne Snyder, MCDBA, SQL Server MVP
Computer Education Services Corporation (CESC), Charlotte, NC
www.computeredservices.com
(Please respond only to the newsgroups.)
I support the Professional Association of SQL Server (PASS) and it's
community of SQL Server professionals.
www.sqlpass.org
"Mark" <mfield@.idonotlikespam.cce.umn.edu> wrote in message
news:eaeFIaxlDHA.2272@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Are there any 3rd party tools that allow VSS to be directly intergrated
with
> Query Analyzer? Or are there replacements for Query Analyzer that have
VSS
> built in?
> We found http://www.mssqlXpress.com , but it likely has more bells and
> whistles than we need and/or want to pay for. We just need/want QA with
VSS
> built in ...
> Thanks in advance!
> Mark
>
2012年2月11日星期六
Answer Re: SQL Server 2000 DTS Tools Web Download
Thanks
DarrenIf I answer my own question, at least I'll get one right.
SQL 2000 DTS tools are now available as part of the -
Download details: Feature Pack for SQL Server 2005 Nov 2005
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=D09C1D60-A13C-4479-9B91-9E8B9D835CDC&displaylang=en)
The direct link to the MSI-
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=46&p=16&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=D09C1D60-A13C-4479-9B91-9E8B9D835CDC&u=http%3a%2f%2fdownload.microsoft.com%2fdownload%2f4%2f4%2fd%2f44dbde61-b385-4fc2-a67d-48053b8f9fad%2fSQLServer2005_DTS.msi&oRef=http%3a%2f%2fforums.microsoft.com%2fMSDN%2fShowPost.aspx%3fPostID%3d126513%26SiteID%3d1|||
I have downloaded the dts tools and when I try to edit a dts package on a SQL2000 instance using the new SQL Server Management Studio, I still get the following errors:
Package Error
Error Source : Microsoft Data Transformation Services (DTS) Package
Errir Description : The DTS host failed to load or save the package properly.
<hit ok>
DTS Designer Error
The selected package cannot be opened. The DTS Designer has been closed.
<hit ok>
SQL Server 2000 DTS Designer components are required to edit DTS packages. Install the special Web download, "SQL Server 2000 DTS Designer Components" to use this feature. (Microsoft.SqlServer.DtsObjectExplorerUI)
<hit ok>
it takes me to the dts designer (it doesn't close it like it says) and all of the icons in the workspace look like a default windows form icon. I can click on each of them to get the properties, transformations, etc. But I dare not save them.
Any idea how to fix this? Or am I not supposed to be able to manage SQL 2000 instances with this tool.
|||I'm experiencing the very same problem. It occurs even if you right-click on Data Transformation Services and select Open package file..., so it's not a server instance issue. Perhaps it requires the latest MDAC and/or SQL Server Native Client to be installed on the accessed server? Feels a bit buggy to me.|||The designer download does require MDAC 2.6 sp2 or newer, but you're likely to have that already.-Doug
|||Can we install the SQL Native Client on a SQL2000 box? would that make any difference to the Management Studio?
|||You can install SNAC on SQL 2000 machines, after all that is what happens in side by side installations of SQL 2000 and SQL2005, but it is not requrired for DTS.
I can happily edit most 2000 packages (through the web download designer) on a clean SQL 2005 machine, pointing at an existing SQL 2000 instance. Sometimes I get invalid class string errors, since the SQL 2005 machine lacks some custom tasks I used with DTS. I do sometimes get a similar error to you, but haven't got around to seeing which components are used in a good package and a problem package. I suspect there may be a problem task. AS processing tasks gave some problems, but I skipped around it and haven't had time to work it yet.|||
After uninstalling the entire CTP (including the beta .NET framework) and reinstalling SQL 2005 enterprise I also downloaded and installed the S2k DTS designer web pack.
Now I can't create or save DTS packages in SQL 2000 without getting the same error. In SQL 2005 using the legacy designer I get mixed results.
So I created a new and very simple DTS package on a different (and clean) SQL 2000 machine that has never had SQL 2005 components installed. It worked fine on the SQL 2000 machine. But when I try to open it using the SQL 2005 designer that I downloaded I get the same annoying error. HOWEVER, certain older packages from that same clean SQL 2000 server CAN be edited and saved using the SQL 2005 designer.
This is WAY buggy. Am I missing a download? What about the backwards-compatible pack I saw with all of the (daunting) SQL 2005 downloads? Is there a sequence to doing this? Do I need to fully uninstall all SQL 2000 components first? Can I then reinstall them?
|||I'm having the same problem. I never had SQL Server 2000 installed, I installed SQL Server 2005 & Visual Studio 2005, then the SQL Server 2000 DTS Designer Component package, but still get error message to install component when trying to open SQL Server 2000 DTS package.
I unintalled SQL Server 2005, then installed SQL Server 2000, ran Enterprise Manager ok, then installed SQL Server 2005, and then SQL 2000 Enterprise Manager will not run now, then installed DTS Component package, and still get same error message to install component when trying to open SQL Server 2000 DTS package.
Tom E.
|||I get exactly the same errors and here's what I found... After trying to migrate a DTS package that failed to open I got a somewhat more informative error message out of the report. It stated that the package name cannot contain any of the following characters: / \ : [ ] . =.
It so happens many of my packages have ':', '.' in the names and so apparently they have changed this aspect as well (thanks Bill for the lack of documentation). Anyhow, after renaming the packages I was able to open them (still with errors but it worked) and migrate them. What a pain in the a**!!!
Hope this helps...
|||I was also having same problem
error message was
SQL Server 2000 DTS Designer components are required to edit DTS packages. Install the special Web download, "SQL Server 2000 DTS Designer Components" to use this feature. (Microsoft.SqlServer.DtsObjectExplorerUI)
The resolution
First download and install SQLServer2005_BC component for backward compatibility from microsoft
Then Install SQLServer2005_DTS component.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=D09C1D60-A13C-4479-9B91-9E8B9D835CDC&displaylang=en)
It should work.In my case it was successfully leting me edit DTS package developed in SQL Server 2000 version
Thankx
||| So what is the correct anwer here. It looks like it works for some but not for others. I happen to be one of the others that this does not work for. I've been working with a new box, clean install of the latest and greatest. ( a number of times, by the way. )
Sorry, but this is driving me nuts. Microsoft Support where are you?
|||
Scott,
There is no documented resolution from Microsoft that these forums will be frequented by MS staff.
You should seek support via your MSDN subscription and then PSS as far as I know.
-Jamie
|||In case somebody else still experience the same problems...
I found help at:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917406/en-us
-duke63
|||Sometimes happen the same and even only appears the arrows. I had a lot of problems with this messing up my Sql2k Entreprise Manager.